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Lonn Dugan — Wed, 08 Apr 2009 08:05:03 -0000

Jay: Thanks for the thoughtful response - which I only just now saw for some reason.

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Clark Smith — Fri, 14 Nov 2008 14:03:52 -0000

I am going to add bloggin to my site. Is it best to have your blogging on your domain or on a different website linking to your domain? Thanks

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Jay — Tue, 26 Feb 2008 20:18:11 -0000

Very nice post. I am thinking about puting a blog in my web site, but sometimes I fail to see the benefits of a blog page. This post makes me realize the importance and benefits of a blog.

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Phil Anderson — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 17:24:57 -0000

Once again, Jay, you are the smartest person in the room. What a great article! And you have the patience of Job. I'd have hit "delete".

I like cats, too. And dogs!

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Cathy Clark — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:26:38 -0000

I feel your pain, Jay. The Pats stunk up the stadium for a long time! In fact the stadium itself stunk! I remember wading through waist deep water just to get a beer! Yes, it was that important!
Kraft bought the team, we got a new stadium, he made the investment in talent, both playing and coaching. Although I still kind of feel bad for Bledsoe, but it was meant to be.
Of course, Brady's a supastah but around here, Belechik is the demi-god.

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Jay - The Phoenix Real Estate — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:19:51 -0000

Thanks Howard.

And yes Cathy, you do!

I'm not anti-Cardinals, they just stink. It's a fact. It truly is mostly due to ownership. The Bidwell's are bumbling fools.

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Cathy Clark — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:13:02 -0000

Ditto to Howard.
I love the blog on the Cardinals! That was funny. I really have to visit here more often.

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Charleston Real Estate Blog — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 15:03:36 -0000

Well said Jay, as always.

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Jay - The Phoenix Real Estate — Fri, 31 Aug 2007 14:39:42 -0000

Lonn - lots of great questions there, I'll attempt to answer most...

"What if you get public comments that are critical beyond mere disagreement? Do you leave them on your RE blog? Do you respond or ignore?"

I have a "comment policy" (see this page, scroll past the pic of the kids) that is VERY loosely applied. Other than blatant spam and advertising comments, I've never deleted a single comment on this blog. And I've been called an "idiot", "dumb ass", "stupid", etc on several occasions. I'll respond to some of those comments. Most I just laugh at and ignore. I've found if you reply back in a civil manner, and toss in a little humor, it throws people like that for a loop and they just go away. It would take something very offensive for me to delete a comment (say something insulting or threatening to my wife or kids). I just don't believe in deleting comments. The way I look at it is I'm putting my opinions and my personality out here for all to see. I know there will be people that disagree with me, and people that don't like me. So what? They're free to come here and say what I want. Ditto with "hijacking" threads. That practice seemed to bother you at Relib and I don't understand why. It happens. A lot. I don't see why it's even remotely an issue.

I had an entire post (here) that was spawned by some rather blunt talk and opinions of real estate agents as a whole. That exchanged actually turned quite civil, with a couple of "bubbleheads" turning out to be OK kinda guys.

You and I seem to see "nasty personal attacks" differently. To be honest, much of what you called personal attacks and "nasty people posting nasty comments" on ReLiberation.com I didn't see that way at all. I saw it as opinionated real estate professionals disagreeing on certain things. I don't see "site bullies". The grand total of "nasty people" I've seen on ReLib is zero. You want to see nasty people and nasty comments? Try looking at HousingPanicDOTcom. Relib is like pre-school nap time compared to that place.

But everyone sees things differently. That's part of what makes the world go 'round.

Definitely different blogs and blogging platforms attract different "personalities" (witness HP.com just above). Public platforms ala REliberation, ActiveRain, forums, etc. seem to be much more inclined to pull in different types of people (just from shear traffic I suspect), and the occasional flame baiter than single stand-alone blogs like this. Those public communities definitely develop their own personalities and "rules". No one will ever fit into every one of those, and if one doesn't fit, I think it's best just to move on and find one where they do fit. There's plenty out there to chose from.

It is VERY easy to get defensive on a blog, especially when responding to what one feels is a personal attack. And defensiveness is often perceived as guilt by many humans. If/when I get really riled up, I employ the tactic of composing the response, saving it, and revisiting it the next day. Normally when I do that the response never gets published, or if it is, it gets toned down significantly.

One thing is certain in blogging. You have to grow a thick skin. If you chose to post anything remotely controversial or even just something that people will have varying opinions on, you can expect to be challenged, have people express opposing opinions, and yes, even be personally attacked. It *will* happen if you do this long enough. It's prudent to determine your "strategy" for dealing with that in advance.

"If somebody called you a cat hater, and you loved cats, would you ignore the post or disagree, or prove the poster wrong, or just delete the post?"

My overwhelming choice would be to ignore it. I *might* disagree, gently and with some humor and grace. I would definitely not delete it. (actually, in this specific example, I'd probably point them to my "$600 Cat" post!)

Here's a comment left here that some might consider a personal attack:

"When you wrote this, what smell was coming in to your one-bedroom efficiency, the stink from the Chinese restaurant you live above or the chemicals from the pet grooming salon next door?
I bet you’re real successful with the ladies when cruising around the Phoenix area in your ‘88 Tempo."

I responded here, and of course, never heard anything back.

Re: But Does All That Blogging Get You CLIENTS?!?

Lonn Dugan — Thu, 30 Aug 2007 18:33:03 -0000

Hi Jay:

This is a very sincere compliment. This article is very well written. You are very passionate about the importance of letting your personality shine, letting it all hang out. I thought that is what blogging was to be like, from all I have read...

So I did... or Do... And it works fine in most blog venues, but it has not worked so well in some. Some blogs are CLEARLY more FLAME prone than others.... Do you find this to be true?

I could use your wisdom here. Perhaps you could help me understand a few things? You encourage bloggers to be themselves. Do other people get to be themselves too? What about nasty people posting nasty comments?

What if you get public comments that are critical beyond mere disagreement? Do you leave them on your RE blog? Do you respond or ignore? Did the people who complained in private email about your take on parenting skills of drowned children post nasty comments on your blog or just send the posts by private email as you indicate above?

The reason I ask is that, as you know, I have had some real problems at one blog in particular with folks not wanting me to be myself... It's not really me they dislike, but they dislike the me that has been portrayed by the site bullies.

Posts became heated conversations with nasty personal attacks on false basis that lead to natural defenses, which produce further false accusations - and then the inevitable, "you must be guilty if you feel defensive".

So, Jay... If somebody called you a cat hater, and you loved cats, would you ignore the post or disagree, or prove the poster wrong, or just delete the post?

I look to you as an expert in this field and admire your skill at blogging. I hope to hear some good wisdom in this particular venue which is away from the environment of that other blog. Perhaps we can have a reasonable discussion about blogs and being who you are and handling off base responses from a public who sometimes takes it on themselves to harass somebody in the blogging world...

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Snoskred — Wed, 15 Aug 2007 02:07:12 -0000

I am glad you left me a link to this, because you wrote it before I found your blog and it is an excellent post.. ;) Sadly I don't have as much time as I would like to go back through people's archives. ;(

Snoskred
http://www.snoskred.org/

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marti garaughty — Wed, 11 Jul 2007 14:26:25 -0000

Hi Jay...

what an eloquent way to explain the benefits of blogging in business, especially "But they also tend to chose an agent because they connect with them on some personal level"...

And that is the point. Standing out from the crowd either on the net or in a local community has a lot more to do with the quality of the relationships you've built, not how many years you've been in business or spouting worn out words like "quality & service".

We all prefer to deal with people we know, trust and like. Again, excellent post!

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Jim Lee — Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:47:13 -0000

It gets me clients.

I've done business with both buyers and seller as a direct result of my blog.

It also helps my SEO for my flagship website: http://www.KnoxvilleMLS.com.

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Jay - The Phoenix Real Estate — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 22:55:48 -0000

Thanks to all those who've commented and contributed! (both here and elsewhere on this and other blogs). Another thing that separates a blog from a static website is interaction just like this... it's a great thing and we all stand to learn so much!

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Laurie Manny — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 22:34:20 -0000

Hi Jay,

Wonderful article, really gets to the heart of the matter. Yes my blog produces clients. Some of whom have read the entire blog which just blows me away. One guy locked himself in his office for a day and wouldn't let anybody interrupt him, I was speechless. I think that was the point that I knew it was a decent blog.

Like Linda, I think your last paragraph sums it up nicely.

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moni — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 16:52:27 -0000

Blogging has given me a lot including clients...which brings me money. AR Blog Tour stop

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Keith Jeppson — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 16:02:52 -0000

Hey Jay, another clickthru- from AR. I don't comment there much anymore, I'd rather give the comments to those personal sites I enjoy.

Great post. I'm so with you on adding your personal touches to a blog. The beauty is in the passion people portray. The passion for whatever drives them. And that's not just real estate.

Blog with passion...or don't blog.

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Scott Simmons Salt Spring — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 14:54:40 -0000

Great post Jay. Very insightful you could have been an anthropologist, with your insight into people.

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Kaye Thomas — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 13:50:47 -0000

I've said it before but I think all of us who blog consistently are just closet writers and this is our chance to go mainstream.. otherwise who would spend this much time at the computer.. I agree that blogging is how people get to know us.. We do the same thing.. everytime I meet up with a group of bloggers I "know" through their blogs we are already old friends..

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Coach Steve Toth — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 12:49:07 -0000

Wow, I'm totally impressed. A Realtor who gets it, understands the reason behind blogging, benefits, web2.0 blog with full of functionality, external and internal tags, the whole enchilada.

This blog needs to be an example for other Realtors to follow.

You are absolutely right about expanding your blog from just real estate to other passions you have in your life. Like will attract like, here we go attraction principles again. I already knew that but I haven't applied it to my own blog yet. Guess what because of your post it's changing today.

I can't believe how many Realtors are not getting the power of this and how they could even help each other to increase their rankings in the search engines themselves.

To Your Success,

Coach Steve

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rudy — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 12:47:57 -0000

hi jay!

are you north america's most successful real estate agent blogger?

http://tinyurl.com/yqg2uv

- rudy.sellsius

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Linda Davis — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 12:22:33 -0000

You really need to have a passion for this blogging thing otherwise it just doesn't work. Your last paragraphs sums it up so nicely.

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Maureen M — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 10:28:47 -0000

I had heard about your Vanilla Pepsi client from someone.

I love your blog.

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Jay - The Phoenix Real Estate — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 02:05:07 -0000

Louisville, Chris, Joe - thanks! Showing the human side is really, really important.

John - I think a LOT of gaining clients through blogging is indirect. I've had clients say, "Love your blog", "learn lots" blah blah blah... is that why they became a client? Who knows. Maybe. It sure can't hurt. And some visitors to the blog clearly move to either the main site or IDX search here. We'll probably never know if it was the blog or not. The vast majority of the time it's the combination of everything.

Stupid analogy alert: Maybe getting clients from the internet is like baking a cake. The website, on-line listings, blog, etc are all ingredients for internet lead generation success. Without all the ingredients, the cake is gonna suck..

Cyndee - thanks for stopping by and commenting!!

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Cyndee Haydon — Sat, 23 Jun 2007 01:55:29 -0000

I couldn't agree more - I think clients get a real feel for who you are and if they feel comfortable with you and trust you before engaging. I am finding the best kind of prospects are coming from blogging - they seem to have a high level of trust, have chosen to work with us and are looking to do something in the near future - I say viva la blog!!!!