I canceled home delivery years ago. We get the paper at the office, mostly to check our ads. If I happen to see an interesting article on the front page as I walk by, I hurry to my desk and read that sucker online.
It's no surprise newspapers are hurting. They're advertiser-driven, and the ROI on print ads has been nose-diving for awhile. Like everyone else, the newspapers need to reconsider their old school business model.
Times are changing...
Linsey
· 1 year ago
Only just a month ago, I canceled our subscription to the Orange County Register because all too often, it went untouched. I almost never open it and my husband is pretty inconsistent.
But within 4 weeks, I realized we weren't quite there yet. Even if he only reads it 2 or 3 times a week, he does like the ability to sit down with the paper when the mood strikes. Even I miss some of the local human interest pieces occasionally.
But for news - we both get everything online. And certainly anything related to the election, the economy, and the real estate market is found online from sources that I've already got bookmarked or in my Reader.
So I've reordered the paper to satisfy the 'coffee and paper' urge but it won't be for much longer I bet.
canceled all print media a couple years ago...and of course, the newspaper KEEPS sending Sunday, sometimes Saturday, ...even after repeated calls to cancel. That's desperate to keep the Circulation count...my God, I struggle to read hundreds of RSS feeds...keep up with social sites.
It's been too long to know - the Internet is more convenient and it doesn't involve clutter, ink fingers or worrying about wasting paper.
As far as advertising goes, it's been too expensive for awhile - I think they shot their own foot in that aspect...they charged a lot, err a TON because they could show good results, but that was years and years ago. It was only a matter of time before something more effective and less expensive (Internet) replaced the newspaper. I wonder how long many of the magazines will last.
Terrible news about the layoffs -
remsinfo
· 1 year ago
I think that newspapers will not vanished. It really depends on the readers. The more interesting the topic, the more the readers will read the news. For real estate, there's an internet that are constantly updated than newspapers. Somehow, the advancement of technology is growing so fast like the internet. From this, the need of a newspaper is constantly declining.
Elaine Reese
· 1 year ago
I was down to only the Sunday paper for years. I finally gave up on that last month.
The print quality of real estate ads is so terrible - blurred, off-register - it sure isn't a positive way to sell the home. We're all too used to the beautiful, crisp photos on the internet. The only agents who still used newspaper ads here are those without any internet presence.
We canceled the Tribune and the Republic last year.
You feel a lot more positive about life when you don't read the newspapers. It also reduces your carbon footprint tremendously.
I have really started to look forward to picking up a free Tribune when I go out with Liz for a quick dinner on Friday night. I'm going to miss the Scottsdale Trib.
I guess everyone is going to be like the New Times, free. I wonder how the New Times is doing?
Hmm... Well, I got the paper when Johanna and I stayed at the Biltmore for the conference. I glanced at it (notice I said "glanced") while we walked over to the conference lobby. As soon as we got there, I tossed the paper and hopped online!
Jay, if I don't have a client over the weekend, my wife and I always go out for either breakfast or lunch on Saturday and that is the only time that we buy and read the paper. I'm always amused when Polly looks through the real estate section with the little pictures and minimal descriptions [ as if she'll find our next home that way ;) ].
James@Insurance Reviews
· 1 year ago
Many new papers are in serious trouble. Between TV and the internet their reader bases have shrunk to unsustainable levels. There are however some large newspapers and magazines that have successfully made the move to the information age, and are making big money from online advertising. For instance the Financial Times.
I read the paper everyday, and have about 40 feeds that I review on a daily basis as well. The problem with newspapers already is that much of it is already syndicated, and can be found everywhere. Few local papers have the ability to write just local content and disseminate it in a rapid enough fashion to be beneficial. Add that to the fact that 90% of todays paper was 70% of last nights local news. So essentially they are delivering yesterdays news?
I am just curious how advertising dollars will be affected by the change in delivery methods over the years to come. Advertisers will have to get creative in the future no doubt.
Tina Fountain@Atlanta Real Est
· 1 year ago
I read the paper online and cancelled my subscription about 2 years ago. The only time I read an actual paper is when I travel. We still take out newspaper ads and do get good results. Many readers see our ad and then visit our website to contact us.
Unfortunately the papers did not change with the times. I don't like to see people lose their jobs, but the leadership of the papers didn't adapt quick enough to the online market. They were once THE source for information at local levels but their method of delivery is now not efficient. There are some great papers across the country that I hope adapt to be more nimble so they can continue to exist in a new format.
@James - I agree that the papers haven't reacted well. Print media is a static, one-way proposition. Some papers have done a great job of incorporating social media into their online content, which is a great example of tweaking a business model to meet the demands of clients and remaining competitive.
I used to read a couple newspapers a day for a long time, now i get all the same news more up to date by watching the news channels on TV and the internet. The real problem is that the newspapers are way over charging to the point where it is ridiculous. Back when they were the only game in town businesses had to pay up (same with the Yellowpages) to advertise, but in Tucson it is like $300+ to run a weekend ad with 1 picture and that’s for 3 days! It just doesn’t add up at all, to me anything over $50-$75 is a asking to much......Anyway I know most of the real estate agents feel the same way about it's effectiveness vs. cost.
Charles@Las Vegas Real Estate
· 1 year ago
The only thing we use the newspaper here for is to line the bird's cage. I think the major publications will survive in some form, but a lot of them will disappear.
My wife and used to get the paper back in Indiana. When we moved to Arizona we never subscribed to The Tribune or The Republic. My wife still will get the Sunday paper to feed her coupon-clipping addiction.
For the most part, you can find everything you need online at the papers' websites. And since that's what the majority of people do these days - go online to search for nearly anything they buy (houses, cars, electronics) - it just makes sense for news sources to invest in online marketing as well as those of us in real estate.
I don't know if newspapers are completely dying but advertising real estate in them is dead. There is just no way to justify the cost. The only time I will advertise a property in the paper is when a client absolutely insist. If it is a great listing I will usually take out an ad just to appease my client.
Newspapers are definitely a thing of the past. I thought people knew this when the biggest mogul in the newspaper industry Rupert Murdoch sold over half of his newspaper agencies to buy Myspace.com.
People thought he was nuts but he is successful with Fox and Myspace.com among others so I think he is a good person to follow.
Eric Lee
· 1 year ago
I grew up on the newspaper but I dropped my subscription the day I got Internet in 1997.
Hadn't looked at a paper in awhile but about 6m onths ago, I bought a paper to read at brunch one morning and realized the price for the Arizona Republic is still 50 cents. I remember when they went from 35 to 50 cents and the uproar that caused. That was in 1994 (IIRC - that's off the top of my head). 1994! Their price hasn't changed in 14 years! What other product doesn't increase in price in 14 years!?!?!?
It is a fundamental rule of economics that price is the intersection of supply and demand and where demand goes down, price goes down. Factoring in inflation, newspaper prices in the Valley have been declining for 14 years now.
I suspect we are not too far away from the physical newspaper pretty much disappearing. It will always exist (there will always be a segment of the population that won't get Internet), but I think it will change drastically from its current format to almost be unrecognizable.
Miami Beach Real Estate
· 1 year ago
Real newspapers have a nice feel and are fun if you have extra time in the morning or to sit at Starbucks, but that is not many people. I have to be in to work early and am busy afterward. In the end the papers pile up and do not seem worth it, cost-wise and environmental-wise. I do like the Sunday paper with a coffee.
Linsey@ OC Real Estate Voice
· 1 year ago
Those of us inclined to comment on a blog like this in the first place are clearly the group of people that are likely to be reading blogs and internet sites for our news rather than the paper. While newspapers and print publications are slowly losing their audience, I do believe there are still a significant number of people that like to sit down with their paper in the morning.
That being said, I do think that it's a different story when we are talking about marketing property. Serious buyers don't look in the newspaper. When 80% + of buyers begin their home search online, it is foolish to spend a marketing budget in print.
Sometimes we may buckle to a client that is pressuring us and want to see their home in print, but as agents we know that homes are not sold that way. I'm fascinated by those (especially the big companies) that continue to spend big advertising dollars on print advertisting. Let's be honest, it's agent or company advertising, not real promotion of a listing.
Jay, Can't remember the last time I read a newspaper. I read brief snips of news on my Treo or online. I do still subscribe to certain print magazines to keep up to date on industry and other business 'hot' topics.
This is simply a changing economy. Life is filled with changes. The way people buy, the way people study, the way people live is changing in every aspect every day. You must either adapt and change by choice or you will be forced to change and adapt.
Honestly, last time I read a paper was this past weekend when I bought one just to see the mistake the publisher made on an ad I ran. Before that? At least a year ... and that time was probably to see firsthand a publishing mistake.
I know I am the oddball, but I actually do still read the paper. The problem, especially with the real estate section of the paper is that they just suck. Papers really have an opportunity in front of them they missing. Everyone’s eyes are on real estate now and the only thing they can run in the RE section is a few builder ads, some lame nationally syndicated article about wall paper and a bunch of liner ads from agents? Missed opportunity IMHO.
Gregory Bain
· 1 year ago
Jay, I like the newspaper. I like the Sunday paper and a cup of coffee on the backyard table with the birds and squrrils early in the morning. It is almost like I am on a vacation stepping back in time to a simple way of life. Too bad I don't get many Sunday mornings in my backyard.
The Atlantic City Press is trying to go internet with Jersey Devil Homes. They want us real estate agents to post our listings for free with any open house dates we hold. They want to sell us a better position (like Realtor.com) and get this - the search engine they tied into is Trulia.
The newspapers are so far behind the curve it is funny. A couple of years ago they started publishing a Homes magazine to sell our listing advertising. The last time I checked they had to cut out one and the other magazine had only a dozen to two pages.
Then the Asbury Park Press does a Sunday Edtion that has so many "open house" ads that they would be cheaper to go back and print the old MLS books and just hand them out to anyone who wants a copy.
Everyone keeps trying to get into our pockets as if there was money in them. Maybe they will start putting out advertising that is paid on a percentage of the house sale and collected when we get it sold?
But, I do miss those Sundays in the early AM at the table in the backyard and big Newspaper to read with my coffee.
Edge@Foreclosure and Credit Cr
· 1 year ago
Linsey,
I also like to sit down with a section of the paper when I'm eating lunch as it's a nice way to zone out for a while.
Problem is though, that I don't use 90% of the paper that day and 100% on the days I don't need it at all.
Like a bank, it would be nice if your subscription fees gave you uncluttered (by ads) web access and the OPTION for "paper statements" that would get delivered for a time period.
There may be weeks when I'm at home for a while, on vacation, etc. And I may want the paper coming so I can read it there. But normally, I have no time for it and as their business model doesn't support my reading habits currently, I just get it elsewhere *shrug*
What are newspapers? Are those the things that they throwdown before they dump the low country boil?
Jim Gatos
· 1 year ago
I suspect the newspapers are a large source of negative articles against real estate agents 'cause we wised up and don't spend stupid money anymore. I used to pay over $3,000 a year on classifieds, some years I went up as high as $5,000. No more. Why should I? SSSSOOOOO many buyers now just go online, do their search, and it's over. Does anyone think there's a pattern of the newspapers slowly ganging up against the real estate profession and trying to embrace the do it yourself fsbo market ? Hmmm?
Our local newspaper relied on real estate advertising as its main revenue until about a year ago. In the Santa Fe, NM real estate market, our clients generally shop for a realtor on-line long before they visit the city. The days of checking out print ads to find a realtor are over.
It's not really common to read the newspaper. We have other resources, like the news on TV. The best place for a real estate person to write is on the net.
Brady Pevehouse @ Central Flor
· 1 year ago
While I admit I still get the paper, today it may have paid off. On occasion I write about an article in the paper that I might typically miss, b/c I would never willfully follow some of the writers that show up in our papers locally.
But today one of the better know writers, one who I agree with 90% of the time actually called me because he found a few of my blog postings. After a 20 min conversation and thanking him for his time (why did I thank him, he called me?) but anyway I left the conversation worrying about what I said and maybe shouldn't have said........ but then I remembered, I don't always play it safe in my blog either. So I still consider it a win-win.
Much of my time in the paper now involves the opinion side. I still get most of my news elsewhere. But local newspapers still have there niche. Even if it is a small niche.
Rafaat@Croatia apartments
· 1 year ago
Unlike most of you here I regularly read newspaper, because I don't feel comfortable looking at the monitor screen for hours, but again I doubt how long I can do this. I guess the key reason for why most of us now don't read newspaper is because of the availability of other resources, and guess what they are more updated and cost effective also. Here you cant generally blame newspaper editors or owners for this. With the cost of everything on the rise its is almost impossible to make newspaper cheaper. More importantly by its very nature you cant expect real time updates of news, which thanks to internet and other e-media we now have access to.
Kate@Buy to let mortgage
· 8 months ago
Newspapers circulation has been falling for a while around the world. It is just yesterday I was reading about quite well known Scottish Newspaper struggling to make any profit. It not really surprising as we all now expect that news will be delivered to us almost immediately to our computer screen or mobile. Newspapers have to realise if they can adopt quickly, they will soon will be out of business.
Croatia Holidays
· 1 month ago
Of course they are dying. They are almost dead. I still like them because they are slightly more handy to read when you're drinking coffee in a cafe, but even that won't last for long. And the news are always out of date when I read them.
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I canceled home delivery years ago. We get the paper at the office, mostly to check our ads. If I happen to see an interesting article on the front page as I walk by, I hurry to my desk and read that sucker online.
It's no surprise newspapers are hurting. They're advertiser-driven, and the ROI on print ads has been nose-diving for awhile. Like everyone else, the newspapers need to reconsider their old school business model.
Times are changing...
But within 4 weeks, I realized we weren't quite there yet. Even if he only reads it 2 or 3 times a week, he does like the ability to sit down with the paper when the mood strikes. Even I miss some of the local human interest pieces occasionally.
But for news - we both get everything online. And certainly anything related to the election, the economy, and the real estate market is found online from sources that I've already got bookmarked or in my Reader.
So I've reordered the paper to satisfy the 'coffee and paper' urge but it won't be for much longer I bet.
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As far as advertising goes, it's been too expensive for awhile - I think they shot their own foot in that aspect...they charged a lot, err a TON because they could show good results, but that was years and years ago. It was only a matter of time before something more effective and less expensive (Internet) replaced the newspaper. I wonder how long many of the magazines will last.
Terrible news about the layoffs -
The print quality of real estate ads is so terrible - blurred, off-register - it sure isn't a positive way to sell the home. We're all too used to the beautiful, crisp photos on the internet. The only agents who still used newspaper ads here are those without any internet presence.
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You feel a lot more positive about life when you don't read the newspapers. It also reduces your carbon footprint tremendously.
I have really started to look forward to picking up a free Tribune when I go out with Liz for a quick dinner on Friday night. I'm going to miss the Scottsdale Trib.
I guess everyone is going to be like the New Times, free. I wonder how the New Times is doing?
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The problem with newspapers already is that much of it is already syndicated, and can be found everywhere. Few local papers have the ability to write just local content and disseminate it in a rapid enough fashion to be beneficial. Add that to the fact that 90% of todays paper was 70% of last nights local news. So essentially they are delivering yesterdays news?
I am just curious how advertising dollars will be affected by the change in delivery methods over the years to come. Advertisers will have to get creative in the future no doubt.
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For the most part, you can find everything you need online at the papers' websites. And since that's what the majority of people do these days - go online to search for nearly anything they buy (houses, cars, electronics) - it just makes sense for news sources to invest in online marketing as well as those of us in real estate.
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People thought he was nuts but he is successful with Fox and Myspace.com among others so I think he is a good person to follow.
Hadn't looked at a paper in awhile but about 6m onths ago, I bought a paper to read at brunch one morning and realized the price for the Arizona Republic is still 50 cents. I remember when they went from 35 to 50 cents and the uproar that caused. That was in 1994 (IIRC - that's off the top of my head). 1994! Their price hasn't changed in 14 years! What other product doesn't increase in price in 14 years!?!?!?
It is a fundamental rule of economics that price is the intersection of supply and demand and where demand goes down, price goes down. Factoring in inflation, newspaper prices in the Valley have been declining for 14 years now.
I suspect we are not too far away from the physical newspaper pretty much disappearing. It will always exist (there will always be a segment of the population that won't get Internet), but I think it will change drastically from its current format to almost be unrecognizable.
That being said, I do think that it's a different story when we are talking about marketing property. Serious buyers don't look in the newspaper. When 80% + of buyers begin their home search online, it is foolish to spend a marketing budget in print.
Sometimes we may buckle to a client that is pressuring us and want to see their home in print, but as agents we know that homes are not sold that way. I'm fascinated by those (especially the big companies) that continue to spend big advertising dollars on print advertisting. Let's be honest, it's agent or company advertising, not real promotion of a listing.
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Can't remember the last time I read a newspaper. I read brief snips of news on my Treo or online. I do still subscribe to certain print magazines to keep up to date on industry and other business 'hot' topics.
This is simply a changing economy. Life is filled with changes. The way people buy, the way people study, the way people live is changing in every aspect every day. You must either adapt and change by choice or you will be forced to change and adapt.
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The Atlantic City Press is trying to go internet with Jersey Devil Homes. They want us real estate agents to post our listings for free with any open house dates we hold. They want to sell us a better position (like Realtor.com) and get this - the search engine they tied into is Trulia.
The newspapers are so far behind the curve it is funny. A couple of years ago they started publishing a Homes magazine to sell our listing advertising. The last time I checked they had to cut out one and the other magazine had only a dozen to two pages.
Then the Asbury Park Press does a Sunday Edtion that has so many "open house" ads that they would be cheaper to go back and print the old MLS books and just hand them out to anyone who wants a copy.
Everyone keeps trying to get into our pockets as if there was money in them. Maybe they will start putting out advertising that is paid on a percentage of the house sale and collected when we get it sold?
But, I do miss those Sundays in the early AM at the table in the backyard and big Newspaper to read with my coffee.
I also like to sit down with a section of the paper when I'm eating lunch as it's a nice way to zone out for a while.
Problem is though, that I don't use 90% of the paper that day and 100% on the days I don't need it at all.
Like a bank, it would be nice if your subscription fees gave you uncluttered (by ads) web access and the OPTION for "paper statements" that would get delivered for a time period.
There may be weeks when I'm at home for a while, on vacation, etc. And I may want the paper coming so I can read it there. But normally, I have no time for it and as their business model doesn't support my reading habits currently, I just get it elsewhere *shrug*
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But today one of the better know writers, one who I agree with 90% of the time actually called me because he found a few of my blog postings.
After a 20 min conversation and thanking him for his time (why did I thank him, he called me?) but anyway I left the conversation worrying about what I said and maybe shouldn't have said........ but then I remembered, I don't always play it safe in my blog either. So I still consider it a win-win.
Much of my time in the paper now involves the opinion side. I still get most of my news elsewhere. But local newspapers still have there niche. Even if it is a small niche.
I guess the key reason for why most of us now don't read newspaper is because of the availability of other resources, and guess what they are more updated and cost effective also.
Here you cant generally blame newspaper editors or owners for this. With the cost of everything on the rise its is almost impossible to make newspaper cheaper. More importantly by its very nature you cant expect real time updates of news, which thanks to internet and other e-media we now have access to.